Curse

Imrys Starborn · Sep 26, 2005, 03:14 PM // 15:14

Could someone explain how you get to 80 health actually?
Edit: Uh, actually, about five minutes after I posted I got it, thanks anyways ^^.

muddog · Sep 26, 2005, 03:46 PM // 15:46

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Originally Posted by Imrys Starborn

Could someone explain how you get to 80 health actually?

imbue all your armour except one piece with superior runes, and use a major for the last piece. then use the -50 focus item to get it to 80.

B0nes · Sep 27, 2005, 11:14 PM // 23:14

An easy way to improve this build is to get 16 in smiting. My axe upgrade of enchanting is only +12%. Therefore I have to take divine favor up to 14 to get a 15sec duration out of balt aura and healing hands. If you have a 15% weapon upgrade of enchanting or better use these attributes instead:

Healing Prayers:8
Smiting Prayers:16
Protection Prayers:11
Divine Favor:12

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Originally Posted by muddog

well, i guess its totally possible to do without arcane echo and healing hands, i replace them with more smiting, and i just keep spamming protective spirit and healing breeze constantly to keep my health up when the death penalty returns to zero. i guess this is another way to do monk/* farming

Wouldn't throw out both of them. Way too risky for my taste.
I tried some things and came up with this:
Gathering all griffons and minotaurs in the area : ~3min
Fighting
1 dmg spell, Only balt aura (smiting 16) : ~45sec
2 dmg spells, Taking SoW instead of arc echo : ~35sec
3 or 4 dmg spells, Taking SoJ, maybe ZF
(lots of concentration needed for staying alive) :maybe ~20-25secs

I think most time is spent gathering mobs, the killing speed doesn't matter that much.
-> Taking more dmg spells improves the speed a bit, but I think it's too stressfull!

muddog · Sep 28, 2005, 01:18 AM // 01:18

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Originally Posted by B0nes

Wouldn't throw out both of them. Way too risky for my taste.
stressfull!

its true thats its riskier...just yesterday i sneezed and when i opened my eyes i saw was dead....and i saw i spit all over my monitor to boot.

dont feel no pain · Sep 29, 2005, 06:06 PM // 18:06

hey guys i think my build is slightly better and faster for farming those parts so plz tell which filming probgram u use (if its fraps i ain't paying) becasue i farm there constanly and mine is easy all pure monk

muddog · Sep 30, 2005, 02:11 PM // 14:11

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Originally Posted by dont feel no pain

hey guys i think my build is slightly better and faster for farming those parts so plz tell which filming probgram u use (if its fraps i ain't paying) becasue i farm there constanly and mine is easy all pure monk

my current build is all pure monk now too

the trial version of fraps can record can't it?

B0nes · Oct 05, 2005, 09:15 PM // 21:15

Due to the recent ArenaNet update I would make some changes. The 25sec recast of balt aura really sucks...
Therefore I would improve the offense by replacing arcane echo with "symbol of wrath".
In this case rely on healing breeze first and hit the 15sec healing hands when life goes back to normal.

carnivore · Oct 05, 2005, 10:04 PM // 22:04

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Originally Posted by B0nes

Due to the recent ArenaNet update I would make some changes. The 25sec recast of balt aura really sucks...
Therefore I would improve the offense by replacing arcane echo with "symbol of wrath".
In this case rely on healing breeze first and hit the 15sec healing hands when life goes back to normal.

lol..or keep arcane echo and echo balths aura...

Artemis89 · Oct 05, 2005, 10:09 PM // 22:09

That's what I have been doing, the original build still works, it's just you need to Echo Balthazar's Aura and I can still kill every single Griffon without ease. With that Echo, you get 30 seconds of Aura, unless you get 20% enchant to make it much more longer.

legandry · Oct 06, 2005, 04:07 AM // 04:07

I truly think you guys are making griffon farming way more complicated than it needs to be. A W/Mo can do it much more consistantly and easier than a Mo/x can. I have tried both, and I have a much easier time with my W than with my Mo.

As a warrior, I am hit for a max of 14-15 dmg, depending on what piece of armor it lands on (plus the dmg for final thrust, usually about 30). My offense is cyclone axe + glads defense + SoW. Cyclone does 15-47 dmg every 5 seconds or so, glads does approx 25 dmg a whiff (usually about 6 whiffs a round), and SoW does a total of about 120 dmg. My defense is mending (for gathering them, I dont really need it after that), live vicariously, vigorous spirit (though it is really unnecesiary as live vicariously does enough healing), bonetti's defense, glads defense, and "watch yourself" (shouted right before a CA lands, the +20 armor ensures that I never fall below 50% hp).

I can kill all the griffs in about 1:30 or less if they cooperate. Rockshots do not hamper this build, and I am able to use my elite for offense and defense. Since making this build, I have not died once (over 30 runs).

The monk build is much more complicated and more risky than this one, but I am starting to have my doubts as to if griffon farming is really worth it anymore. While I still do get good items, I think that UW or FoW might be more time-effective.

B0nes · Oct 14, 2005, 10:22 PM // 22:22

@legendry
This thread is about monk farming. Most people won't have the choice between a lvl 20 monk and a lvl 20 Warrior

Like i posted before fighting only takes 45secs with this build(still true when echoing Balt. Aura).
That's way better than you 1:30 :P
I don't think this build is complicated and I don't die when I use it because the way I run I don't get any rockshots.

If you want to farm UW or FoW then
1. you gone need your monk
2. you gone need a lot more farming skill then needed for this build and the darn griffons

FragOnly · Nov 05, 2005, 12:07 AM // 00:07

something interupts my spells when i follow this run, i'm wondering what im donig wrong as the videos don't have any interuptions (it'll kill you fast when a healing hands or protective spirit is interupted and delayed for a bit)

sorry if this is something obvious

EDIT: its the scopions casting distracting shot.... now to distract them...

pph4m · Nov 05, 2005, 10:19 PM // 22:19

i love how u guys turned the farming videos into music videos, i like the music!

- couldnt you not use the smiting line and throw in something like the curse line from necros and use [ shadow of fear, mark of pain, spiteful spirit ] or [rotting flesh and suffering]

cuz balth's aura's become ungodly slow now.

is it possible, instead of using a -50 focus item, we can throw on a superior and still use a staff of enchant?

Reve2uk · Nov 09, 2005, 08:50 PM // 20:50

i tried a 8hp build like this accept i used a Mo/W and didn't bing an elit and i found it realy easy, all i did was keep brezze maintained and u can't die, so y bring echo + healing heads. i just think it would be more effective if u had more hp

X Bound X · Nov 09, 2005, 09:28 PM // 21:28

I think you guys are missing the point of Bones post.
He's not saying "My way owns, and this is the only monk farming build to use."

He's saying, 'Hey check this out, I found a different (read: fresh) way of farming, that utilizes a monk/mesmer combination, instead of the standard monk/warrior combination."

Bones, cudos on the creativity for this build, I've been using a variation of this build for sometime now,except I use the standard 55 with channeling instead of breeze.

Specifically

Smiting: 13
Healing: 9
Divine Favor: 14
Protection: 11
Inspiration: 4

Runes:
5 superior

Weapons:
-50 Hp Focus
Sword of Enchanting 20%

Skills:

Prot Spirit
Channeling
Blessed Aura
Bal Spirit
Bal Aura
Mending
Arcane Echo
Healing Hands

I switched out breeze for channeling, because to me at least it seemed I really didn't need it.Under HH my life bar sits firm at 50hp and the occasional cast of Prot Spirit repleneshes my energy under channeling.

Something fun to use at the very least, and seems right up your ally.

Cheers.

Sharpe_116 · Nov 09, 2005, 10:43 PM // 22:43

i never farm with a w/mo, wayyy to slow for my liking. i normally used the regular 55 monk build to farm and it worked fine. But ill try this when im at my friends house since he has a mo/me ill give u my opinion then. And good job for thinking outside the box and being different

faust · Nov 19, 2005, 07:45 PM // 19:45

Hi. Nice movie(s) & music, and a nice build too.

Any thoughts on impoving this after this latest update?

2_fingers · Nov 20, 2005, 07:21 AM // 07:21

Here's a clue: Sheild of Judgement.

faust · Nov 20, 2005, 03:07 PM // 15:07

Actually this is really good way of improving this build. Shield of Judgement + Zealots Fire added to the already listed skills (SoJ instead of HH, and ZF instead of balt aura)!

kvndoom · Nov 20, 2005, 04:21 PM // 16:21

Zealot's Fire triggers AI scatter now, if you cast too fast with it on.